2008 Upper Deck Series 2

Nothing has changed my opinion about this lackluster offering from Upper Deck. It is responsible for the best Marcus Thames card ever, and that's about it. I picked all of these out of a commons bin at The National.

491 Kenny Rogers

492 Justin Verlander

493 Dontrelle Willis

494 Joel Zumaya

495 Ivan Rodriguez

496 Miguel Cabrera

497 Carlos Guillen

498 Edgar Renteria

499 Curtis Granderson

500 Jacque Jones (no, this is not a mistake, he is in both series.....as is Renteria....but no Galarraga.....argh......)

501 Marcus Thames

722 Clete Thomas

740 Ivan Rodriguez Season Highlight

777 Miguel Cabrera Team Checklist

785 Curtis Granderson Season Highlight

797 Magglio Ordonez Season Highlight

Well not all, as it looks like I am missing both Cabrera cards, the Pudge Highlight, and the Clete Thomas' RC.

Oh well....that is one sweet Thames card......

2008 Topps Series 2

I guess sometime during this disappointing season that my hatred for Topps has just dissipated into apathy. Since I am no longer buying packs of Topps cards, my frustration has eased somewhat. I picked up the following cards at The National for less than $10 total. I do actually think this is probably my second favorite Topps design of the last 10 years, ranking behind 2005, but that's not really saying a lot for the last 10 years of Topps cards.

No surprises in the base set:

403 Nate Robertson

412 Joel Zumaya

427 Carlos Guillen

466 Classic Combos Cabrera/Rodriguez

484 Todd Jones

503 Jeremy Bonderman

510 Justin Verlander

512 Placido Polanco

539 Clete Thomas

620 Gary Sheffield

634 Kenny Rogers

641 Marcus Thames

Topps continued along with the next two months of the Year In Review inserts.

YR73 Justin Verlander

YR108 Magglio Ordonez

YR115 Ryan Raburn

There is a new insert set called Topps Stars.

TS2 Magglio Ordonez

TS17 Miguel Cabrera

Topps reissued their Trading Cards History insert set from series 1, this time as chrome cards. 

TCHC26 Justin Verlander

TCHC29 Ivan Rodriguez

TCHC33 Gary Sheffield

TCHC38 Magglio Ordonez

I might be missing one or two of these, like Granderson, but since they aren't numbered the same as their series 1 counterparts, I don't really know.

Topps also continued along with the 50th Anniversary All-Star Rookie Team inserts.

AR95 Ramon Santiago

That Ramon Santiago has an insert card says more than I could ever say about series 2, and really, Topps in general.

1987 Fleer Baseball's Game Winners

Well at least it seems like someone at Fleer was informed of their previous lapses in content when it came time for this one. This time they just gave the set a vague title and included players with a lot of game winning RBI, wins, or saves. Guess it's kind of hard to screw that up.

I can't help but thinking though that the powder blue borders make this look like the box bottoms set from '88 Topps.

There are still only 5 HOF in the set, it's not visually appealing, and I swear I've seen that Ripken photo used prominently within the last year (Upper Deck Masterpieces?), but given that it's pretty late on Sunday evening, I'm willing to let this one slide. That this is one of their better box sets of 1987 speaks volumes about the year that was at Fleer.

Hey, there are two Tigers included:

17 Kirk Gibson

20 Willie Hernandez

Ok, insert your own lame ass Chris Berman-like song reference here.

Hopefully Morrison gets out of the on-deck circle before the stadium sinks completely into the water......

1987 Fleer Baseball's Exciting Stars

It's a wonder Fleer didn't get sued for this gross false advertising of a product. Out of all of these sets I've seen so far, this is easily the the biggest collection of has beens and never will be's that Fleer boxed up in the 80's.

I would love to sit down one day with the whomever was in charge of player selection for this set. (Or any of the other ones for the matter.....) It looks like Fleer pimped the same 10 or so players out in each one of these sets, and then drew from a pool of the remaining players with the rule that once a player was in a set he was ineligible from inclusion in any other set.

I'm at a loss for the logic of leaving out so many obvious players from an "Exciting Stars" set from 1987. I would list the omissions, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the inclusions.

Don Aase, Rick Aguilera, Sid Bream. Danny Cox, Gene Garber, Mark Gubicza, Mel Hall, Terry Harper, Rick Honeycutt, Charlie Kerfield, Dennis Rasmussen, and Kent Tekulve are the most glaring inclusions in this set. Don Aase? Terry Harper? KENT TEKULVE? IN 1987?

There are only 3 HOF in this set, and one of them is Steve Carlton pictured in a White Sox uniform and I don't recall Lefty being an exciting star while he was sporting those togs.

Again there is only one Tiger in the set. How they came up with including him is a mystery to me.

26-Willie Hernandez

What's up with that design, too? It looks like each card was printed on the sleeve of a Rangers uniform. There seems to be a trend in 1987 of a Red, White, and Blue motif on the fronts as well as the backs. Fleer must've gotten a good deal on a couple of cases of Red and Blue inks that summer.

2008 Goudey

Enough blogging about mediocre Fleer sets for awhile. Time to blog about a lights out issue. The 2008 Goudey.

I guess this is Upper Deck's answer to Topps Heritage. So much so that they've resorted to the same old different colored back variations and what not. But since reprints of 1994 Upper Deck don't appeal to me in the slightest, this is likely the best they can do, and I love it. I vaguely recollect Fleer doing a Goudey set a few years back. I guess since Upper Deck bought Fleer that they have the rights to do these now. And I thank them for doing it.

The cards are on the same type stock as Heritage, which I hope someone figures out in the near future is SO much cooler than the usual glossy stock with some sort of foil stamping, and will one day produce a full set like this.

I picked up the following Tigers at the National:

68 Justin Verlander

69 Curtis Granderson

70 Miguel Cabrera

71 Gary Sheffield

72 Magglio Ordoñez

73 Jack Morris

I have also seen on ebay that there is a SP card of Al Kaline, #211.

IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE RELEASED A SET COMBINING CURRENT PLAYERS AND ALL-TIME GREATS IN A SINGLE SET!!!

I'll be the first to admit that offering base set cards of players like Morris and Kaline is infinitely better than offering cards of Nate Robertson and Fernando Rodney. As successful as the Topps Archives were in the early 00's, I have never figured out why someone wouldn't do a set that mixes the best of the present and the past.

Well now they have. Hopefully next year it will be bigger, and ultimately, better. 

P.S. Why the fuck did they have to put Derek Jeter on the bottom of EVERY card? Why couldn't they do it by team? How much cooler would it be if at the bottom of every Tiger card it had Magglio or Granderson "saying it..."?

1987 Fleer Baseballs (sic) Best, Sluggers vs. Pitchers

So before I hammer Fleer again for lousy design and questionable player selection, let me at least give them a little credit for this issue. They don't look as bad as a lot of their other 44-card box sets. They came up with a pretty interesting concept for a set. But somewhere between conception and production they absolutely lost it.

Are Pat Tabler with his 28 career HR (over six seasons at the end of 1986) and Mike Witt 3.52 career ERA (not exactly world class in 1986) REALLY some of baseballs (sic) best?

Again there is only one Tiger. Apparently being named to a Sports Writers Award was not justification for inclusion into this set for Lance Parrish. But as long as there is at least one Tiger, I'm ok with it. 3.57 ERA and all.

27-Jack Morris

Again, there are only seven HOF out of forty-four cards. No cards of Nolan Ryan, Pete Rose, Reggie Jackson, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, Rod Carew, Jim Rice, Gary Carter, or Dave Winfield, but instead there are cards of Kevin Bass, Jesse Barfield, Sid Bream, Ivan Calderon, Tom Henke, Jeff Leoanrd, Joe Magrane, and Ken Phelps. 

On second thought, my pain is eased considerably. Jeff Leonard? If that is not the definition of cool then I don't know what is. 

Yeah boyeeeeeeeeeee.............

1987 Fleer Award Winners

If you hadn't figured out by year three of the Fleer Limited Edition 44-card box sets that they were mailing it in, then this one left no doubt. Bad looking design, flat-out awful player selection, and dubious "awards" highlight this set. Much like Over The Top, this is so bad that it's actually pretty entertaining.

While I can't post scans of everybody, some "Award Winners" include: Bob Boone, Bob Forsch, Bob Knepper, Candy Maldonado, Roger McDowell, Gary Pettis, Johnny Ray, Robbie (sic) Thompson, and Frank White. Wow! Stellar!

I love the look on Webster's face. "The most triples? They give an award for that?"

If Blyleven really did strike out 3000 batters in 1986 then it's a travesty that he's not in the Hall Of Fame.

There is only one Tiger in the set and he doesn't look all that thrilled about his award either.

28- Lance Parrish

It's not all bad though. There are seven HOF in the set. Seven out of forty-four. 

Ok, I've got nothing here.....

1985 Fleer Update

I am "working from home" today, still reeling from last night's bitter defeat to the White Sox, so what better way for me to cheer up than to blog about one of my favorite card designs of the 80's. I have always been a big fan of the '85 Fleer cards. Nice clean photos, trimmed with team colors, and a prominently placed team logo make this a fresh looking set still today.

I picked up a couple of these at The National for $2 apiece. For the price of two packs of Topps Opening Day, I think these are quite a steal. I can't even begin to imagine how many of these Fleer must have produced for this set of 132 cards to sell for that cheap.

I guess the "big card" would be the Ozzie Guillen rookie card. (I take small solace in the fact that he was serving game one of his two game suspension last night during the Tigers 14th inning, 10-8 loss...) Yo Ozzie, hit THIS!!!

There are four HOFers in this set. (Yes, I am counting Rickey. Because, you know, Rickey already be counting Rickey.) Hell, I'd forgotten that Don Sutton once played for the A's. I'll bet most Braves fans would like to forget that Bruce Sutter once played for the Braves. I'm sure many Mets fans would have already forgotten that Gary Carter once played for the Mets, if only Gary would let them.

There are four Tigers in the set, including another Sparky Anderson overhyped phenom, Chris Pittaro. Sparky once contemplated moving Lou Whitaker to third before placing Pittaro there out of spring training in 1985. Pittaro, replacing Howard Johnson, who was traded for Walt Terrell, played all of 28 games for the Tigers that year. He and Alex Sanchez the First were later traded to the Twins for Dave Engle. 

87U-Chris Pittaro

98U-Alex Sanchez

103U-Nelson Simmons

118U-Walt Terrell

I don't have anything on Nelson Simmons. For that I apologize.

I can reiterate enough how much I like the '85 Fleer stickers. I'm going to get a full set of these one way or another.

I have no clue who this guy is. Wasn't he the governor of Alabama or Oklahoma in the 70's?

1987 Topps Stickers

I don't know what happened between 1983 and 1987, but it's apparent that Topps had given up on its sticker set somewhere along the way. Chalk this up as another listless entry into the Topps pantheon of mediocre products.

Gone are the tributes to the Hall Of Famers. Gone are the cool die-cut All-Stars. Hell, gone are each guy getting his own sticker. 

I'll keep this brief because I really don't feel like spending a lot of time blogging about such a bland product. Also because there really isn't a lot to discuss.

Each team has two players that get full stickers. The rest of the guys are relegated to half-sticker status. 

The only foil stickers are of the All-Stars.

The Tigers in this set:

149-Lance Parrish All-Star

153-Lou Whitaker All-Star

264-??? full-sticker

265-Johnny Grubb half-sticker

266-Jack Morris half-sticker

267-Lou Whitaker half-sticker

268-Chet Lemon half-sticker

269-Lance Parrish half-sticker

270-Alan Trammell half-sticker

271-Darnell Coles half-sticker

272-Willie Hernandez half-sticker

273-Kirk Gibson full-sticker

Ok, so without having the sticker book, IT IS KILLING ME to know who the other Tiger full sticker is. Darrell Evans is the best I can come up with. But is he really full-sticker worthy over ANYBODY else on a half-sticker?

The coolest sticker in the entire set? If a sticker paints a thousand words.....

The worst sticker in the entire set? Cecilio Guante and Tim Hulett. There's not much else to say.....

Oh yeah, Barry Lamar Bonds made his debut in this set. Topps was obviously airbrushing to make him appear this small. Meanwhile, Neil Allen starts the trend of looking the other way.....

By this time Topps was up to its usual collation shenanigans again. There are 313 stickers in this set, but probably half of those are stickers with 2 players on 1 sticker. So there are maybe 200 or so stickers total. Out of a box of 500 stickers, I am still missing something like 11-13 stickers, including one of the single Tiger stickers. 

I have 6 stickers of Roger Clemens right leg, but no Tiger sticker of whoever it is that I cannot figure out. 

I hate Topps.

1987 Fleer Limited Edition

Fresh off one of the ugliest sets ever, comes another. The highlight is the pre-juice card of Roger Clemens.

Mike Krukow? He sucked....

The stickers suck too.

The Tigers:

17-Kirk Gibson

28-Jack Morris

I don't know what else to add about this set, other than I paid $2 for it. 

It sucks.

1986 Fleer Limited Edition

Year two of the Limited Edition sets, and as ugly as they are, not even close to the worst it would get. But pretty bad nonetheless.

At least the stickers were somewhat cool.

The worst player of the set? Chris Brown, pictured sweating his ass off here at Wrigley while wearing a jacket, unbeknowing that one day he would be a Tiger, who would eventually go on to drive trucks for Haliburton in Iraq and die a few years later in a house fire in Texas. 

RIP

The Tigers:

19-Kirk Gibson

44-Lou Whitaker

Boy was this an ugly set.

1986 Donruss Major League All-Stars

Following along with their Action All-Stars set, in 1986 Donruss actually produced a 3.5" x 5" set of all of actual All-Stars from the 1985 All-Star Game, with a new twist. 

The set contains all 58 participants in the 1985 game, along with a card of the Metrodome and a checklist card.

The first 18 cards are the starting nine from each side, with the rest of the set consisting of the reserves and the managers.

The MVP of the game was newly acquired Padre Lamarr Hoyt.

This was the infamous game where Lou Whitaker lost his uniform in transit and had to buy a Tigers jersey at the game and color his number on the back with a magic marker.

For the first time the oversized set resembled the Donruss base set of the same year.

The worst All-Star of the bunch? Yep, you guessed it. Scott Garrelts, who looks like the offspring of Greg Minton.

Tigers were aplenty this year, and include:

11-Lou Whitaker

18-Jack Morris

42-Dan Petry

43-Willie Hernandez

45-Alan Trammell

58-Sparky Anderson

The new twist I mentioned earlier? The very cool and innovative "pop-up." A die cut card that you could unfold to be a self standing deal. There was one of each starter in the game. Again, kudos to Donruss for collation, as I got a full set of 18 as well as doubles of both Tigers, Morris and Whitaker.

This box also included the box bottom card panel that Donruss started the year before. This box had the following: